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Hello all, I have a question on the 2 band sniders. I met a fella who is selling one similar to the Afghan short rifle previously discussed except (from the pictures) the barrel bands seem closer...

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As far as the C A mark I don't know if it is Canadian (just a guess) because I do not see a DC diamond cartouche on the left of butt stock. Again I am no expert but wouldn't one expect to see the...

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Usually, but not always.

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The Snider I inherited from my Great-Grandfather was Canadian surplus and not DC marked. -Ryan

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Very interesting. Are there other common markers on Sniders to show canadian ownership? If I get this one I will post better pictures with measurements.

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There is usually a battalion marking on the LHS of the buttstock. I can't tell if you have one or if it is a trick of the light. -Michael

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Actually, the Battalion number and stand-of-arms number were supposed to go on the buttplate tang, under this directive -This memorandum on marking each stand-of-arms issued to a particular...

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Wow, very informative Grant. Thank you. I will have to look closer if I get it in person however from the pictures I do not see anything similar to what you described or gave examples of. What are...

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Oh, *that* mark! I think that's a London Armory Company trademark that was applied to their Snider actions. Please ignore my earlier remark about the Canadian Broad Arrow, I thought you were talking...

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Slight correction, the mark under discussion appears to be that of the "London Small Arms Company", not the "London Armoury Company" .... a separate (and earlier) entity which prospered from...

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Again, very informative Grant, thank you. It seems your spot on with the ID. If the lock is correct for this snider, is it safe to guess it's a P53 or p58 naval model made in 1862 and converted to...

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OldieEC, If it is converted from a P53 or P56, then it will have 3-groove rifling. The P58, P60, and P61 all had 5 groove. The purpose-made artillery carbines usually had 5 groove rifling. If it has a...

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OldieEC: First off, the conversion to Snider configuration would not likely have occurred prior to 1866, at the earliest, because that is the year that the Snider breech conversion system was approved...

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Grant, I will get the answers soon enough. As it turns out the vendor is selling this on consignment for an individual who is parting with four snider rifles total. A deal was struck and they are all...

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Grant,I got this one in yesterday and actually got to take a look at it. To answer your questions it is a 3 groove barrel measuring 21.5" with an OL of 39". It was 1000 yard rear sight and the...

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Do post some better photos, if possible ..... sounds like an alteration to approximate an artillery carbine .....

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My guess would be that the bayonet lug was added at the time it was bobbed and converted to Snider action, and therefore a legit part of the gun's history. I can't guess why they would have shortened...

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Ask and you shall receive Michael. **Edit: my apologies for the orientation of some of the pictures, I tried to rotate however Yuku would not have that happen so, as they say "It is what it is."** On...

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This is a very nice little carbine, and the bore is spectacular. It's a pretty good catch, even if it's not exactly what it's pretending to be. The scrubbed barrel on top with nice blue underneath is...

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Yes, interesting carbine Alex, with some decent quality mods performed over its lifetime. As you presume, the 'X' inspection marks are LSA.

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Thanks guys, It's looking good, I currently have it broken down and a light cleaning underway. Stock is thirsty so a little BLO will do it well. More on the others to follow. All good point Michael, I...

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